Hi D. Robbins

I am interested to know what the masters course in rehabilitation entails? I am due to finish my sport therapy degree in a few weeks and was looking around at the various options. One of my questions that I would like to ask is the issue with funding. Do you know of any help with this or is it all self funded? I would be grateful for any pearls of wisdom that you may be able to share with me.

Jo

Hey Jo,

Post graduate rehab courses are a nightmare!!!!!!! I have spent around 2 years looking at them while I worked through my BSc and it is not simple!!
My masters is an MSc by research. I will be looking at effective activation of VMO and the various factors involved. I will actually only be completing one module (I think its pain managment but nothing is set in stone yet).

Funding can be a pain although many universities are offering bursaries now to help with the fees. Do you have a particular area of the country you want to study in? or a particular area of rehab? e.g. musculoskeletal, neuromuscular, orthopaedic? do you want to stay sport specific or would you consider clinical for a while to broaden your experience?

I know this is a bit vague, but if you give me a little more info I'll help as best I can.

keep smiling
Dan

Hi Dan

I am not looking to do a post grad course in rehab. I am hoping to go on and work on horses on equal footing with a physio. At present this is challenging as the sport therapy degree is not yet state registered. This is due to go to proposal in May. Until then it is challenging to get recognised by the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists which are officially the only body that is legally allowed to work on horses.

So in the mean time, as I have a developing interest in the physiology, biomechanics and performance I was planning to either do a biomechanics routeway or apply to the University of Essex and do the Msc in Human and Equine Sports Science. The trouble is the funding!!!! I would then have to consider doing it part time as I would have to work to pay my way. But if it is the only route then it has to be done. The biomechanical route would only be of interest to me if I can do it from the equine prospective. The university that I am at now do this specialist routeway but I am not sure that they have the capabilities to do some of the testing on campus, however, there may be scope to travel to another university etc to do just the testing. This I need to explore in more detail. At the moment I am just buzzing ideas around in my head and looking at all my options.

Hey Jo,

Just saw your post on plantar fascitis - although I didn't realise it was u at first, good stuff though.

Seems like you have already done most of your research - I saw the Essex course, isn't that run by a Dr Shearman? essex is pretty good (I may do a masters there myself in 2008). Equine stuidies are pretty rare in the uk, it would certainly be easier to follow a biomechanics pathway. There was actually an open day in my uni's (Greenwich) sports science lab the other day. There were about 15 girls from a college or uni that does equine studies that were in for a tour. I will try and find out why and where they were from you. Are you looking to find a funded course or ways to fund a particular course? Are you looking for a taught or research masters? Have you considered graduate/career development loans? Have you also considered doing a Phd? There is generally more funding available for doctorates then there is for masters.

Dan

Hi Dan

I was thinking towards a taught course purely because of the crossover of human to horse. I thought that this may be a bit challenging to try to go straight into the research arena without some good knowledge under my belt. Maybe I am underestimating myself though!!!!!!!! When I looked at the course it appears that we have covered a fair bit of it already. In addition, my uni did provide us with a good background in research methods which seems to be a bit of a nightmare to most students.

I have not heard and did not know that you could apply for graduate/career development loans. Can you tell me anymore about them? Where do I go to get these? Are they privately funded by the bank? Do you know what the interest rates are likely to be in the region of?

I had not thought of doing a Phd purely because of the time that it takes. I have been studying for four years now and just don't think that I could face another three!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to weigh up what will be the best thing to do in the long run. Ultimately I want to work on horses from a therapy point of view but would also like to get into some of the research areas, particularly on either performance or injury prevention/ lameness. Just need to find the optimum route to achieve this!!!!!!!!!

Cheers for you input it is much appreciated. Glad you liked the advice about plantar fasciitis. I wasn't sure how it would be received. There are quite a few people who seem to know what they are talking about and that can be a little intimidating at first.

Still smiling
Jo

Hiya Jo,

Graduate loans change from bank to bank but there is no end of info on the net, I am hoping not to get one so couldn't tell you about interest rates (sorry). I believe that you can borrow upto £8,000 which is repayable in installments that begin three months after to complete your masters so if you decide you can afford the rates, then please consider how quickly you can be earning afterwards!!!

Its good that you have as firm understanding of research methods, I def agree with you it seems to be a weak area for many students, I also notice that statistics are often a weak area. Did you do much stats for your degree? If not there are planty of good books (that are thankfully cheaper than A+P or Ex phys books!) that will help you through a research course.

I know what you mean about posting here being intimidating, there does seem to be lots of experts posting stuff, I waited a fair while before actually posting anything, now just stick to stuff I know or am interested in - you never know, you may make some contacts through here!

Previously you said "At present this is challenging as the sport therapy degree is not yet state registered. This is due to go to proposal in May".
I was wondering if this is just your course or any other therapy/rehab courses? Things change so much it seems that I can't keep up!!! though if things change in May, I may change my physio plans.

Glad your still smiling - keep it up lol
Dan

Hi Dan

I think what I wrote about the degree no being state registered was a little misleading, what I meant was sports therapy is not state registered!!!!! That means that anyone can call themselves a sports therapist whether they have done a degree or a weekend course at the local college. Becoming state registered means that the members have to have attained a recognised standard and so it protects a) the public and 2)the profession of sports therapy. If you go on to the society of sports therapists website it explains all in a much better format. It may be that you will not now need to go and do a physio course in order to get recognition for your professional status. All people who are at present working as sports therapists will be able to apply to be members and be able to continue to work as sports therapists. As a graduate we get automatic membership status. Was that what you wanted to do? I see that you have done rehabilitation so what does/did that include? So was you planning on doing the physio course? As I was surfing on the net I came across a Msc in Sports therapy that they are now offering at Teeside University if you are interested.

I have to admit that it is a bit daunting to decide whether to incur even more debt at this juncture in my career. I am a mature student and so to take on even more debt requires serious consideration. I also have to justify whether it is worth it and what I am likely to get out of it. You are right to raise the subject of how easy is it going to be to get a decent paid job considering the loan must start to be paid back after three months of graduating.

Still Smiling (just) Exams in a few weeks.............

Jo

Hiya,

I am actually still working on my BSc Sports Science with Fitness now but have attend various vocational courses, I worked for one year in a gym with a G.P. refferal scheme (pre-uni I'm a mature student too - we're everywhere it seems) and I work in the universities rehabilitaion gym where I recieve hands on training aswell.

Much of my degree covers aspects of rehabilitation (health screening and risk assessment, movement science and injury, control and disorders of movement, plus standard modules, A+P, biomechnics etc.) but not enough to register as more than a complementary therapist. In theory I could go straight to physio course but I actually want to do the research masters first. Admitdly this will take longer but I will get additional advanced rehab training too.

I found out the girls at my uni the other day were from Hadlow so you may want to browse their website for equestrian stuff (great terminology there lol). Many physiotherapy masters are paid for by the NHS with a busary to help with living costs, have you thought about doing a straight physio masters? Could be difficult for you coming from sports therapy though.

still smiling (even with dissertation in on the 24/4!)
Dan

Hi Dan

We also did a module in health screening and risk assessment. So I suppose you know the ACSM guidelines pretty well. I have to say that I did find it interesting and quite useful because one has to be realistic about the type of client one is likely to meet in a clinical environment. So it is good to know how to aid the less fit. We are not all going to find the dream job and deal with only elite athletes. I feel I need a few years under my belt getting some good hands on experience. I have to say that I had not thought about doing the switch to physio too seriously because, as you say it may be difficult coming from a sport therapy background. For some reason, the physios seem to not welcome us and I wonder if it is because a lot of them don't understand what the degree course entails and think we have all attended a weekend course and are not of equal academic status. Most physios I have met have viewed my profession with sceticism. So we need to education some of them.

I suppose they have had the monopoly since time inmermorial and are unwilling to share this. There is a national shortage of physios and so I don't see their reluctance to embrace us in the musculoskeletal side of the job. We don't propose to do the same job, there are several aspects where we differ significantly but can they say that they can do the same as us from the sport science side. Some can yes as they take on post grad courses. I do find that it is frustrating that some of them are so ignorant. I suppose that we just have to rise about the ignorance and prepare to put ourselves out there and show them that we are worthy of respect for what we do too.

Enough of me on my soapbox!!!!!!!!!! Ranting like a loony. I will ask you another question as I am in the middle of a project. Why will >30s sprint training increase aerobic performance? What are the mechanisms to facilitate this? Only answer if you have the time.

I am still smiling (only just) as my dissertation is due in on the 21st along with another project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jo

Hey Jo,

You need to read about Gylcolysis - often you will find that bioenergetics are described seperatley but remember they all work in conjunction with each other constantly. The processes underpinning Glycolcysis are detailed at http://dwb.unl.edu/Teacher/NSF/C11/C11Links/web.indstate.edu/thcme/mwking/glycolysis.html
A basic overview of energy systems can be seen at http://orgs.jmu.edu/strength/JMU_Summer_2000_WebPage/JMU_Summer_2000_Sections/14_Summer_Energy_Systems.htm

Although to be honest the only really good thing on the page is the graph which gives an idea of the the energy systems work together.

During glycolysis, each glucose molecule is cleaved into two pyruvic acid molecules, and energy is released to form ATP. In the presence of oxygen (aerobic gylcolysis) the pyruvic acid enters the mitochondria (the "power house" of the cell) and enters the oxidative stage of glycolysis to produce ATP. However, when there is not enough oxygen present for this reaction to take place, the pyruvic acid transforms into lactic acid. The role of lactic acid is the key to understanding aerobic glycolysis as lactic acid cannot be returned to lactate (and eventually pyruvate) without oxygen. This is a very brief answer, and does not consider, lactate threshold, lactate turning point, or ventilatory threshold - (sorry).

Good authors for exercise physiology are:
McKardle, katch and katch
Powers and Howey
Wilmore and Costill.

I can imagine that nonrecognition would get pretty vexing to say the least! it would certainly bug me!!

H+RA was quite a good module - except blood analysis which was a LOT of waiting for the machine to analyse the sample- did my head in sitting around doing nothing!

Dissertation and project???? that a tad harsh isn't it? what's your dissertation anyway?
KS
D

Hi

Ive had enough of glycolysis to last me a lifetime today. The trouble is we have to explain why something did not produce an effect in a study that we conducted which is more challenging than trying to hypothesize why something did!!! I have found alot of conflicting issues which regards to the enzymes that the researchers were measuring and so I think that I will have to stick to the possible changes in muscle fibre types and the effect of intensity and duration. Luckily it is only a thousand words and I have compiled some notes from twenty research papers that should allow me to build a logical argument. Wish me luck. There seems to be a lot of research on anaerobic metabolism changes and aerobic changes but not many on sprint training effect on aerobic performance. Have you read the Burgomaster study conducted in 2005 who found that six sessions of sprint training using the Wingate protocol improved cycle endurance capacity by 100%? We did a modified version looking at whether a slightly reduced intensity elicited the same results. In some subjects it did from an individual point of view but overall as a group effect there was no statisical significance.

Thanks for the private mail. I did have a look and it was right up my street. Have a look when you have time and let me know what you think.

My dissertation is nothing to do with therapy. I am doing a kinematic analysis of the piaffe dressage movement and correlating it to the judges score to see if performance indicators can be identified to aid training to enhance future performances.

The dissertation is the least of my worries at the moment. It is only six weeks to the end of my degree and so I have to know every joint in the body, assessment techniques and treatments as I could get asked on any one. This includes the spine, lumbar, cervical and thoracic, the shoulder, the elbow, the wrist and hand, the hip the knee or the ankle. I have a presentation to prepare for three weeks, an electrotherapy exam on either laser or interferential and I have to revise for physiology of training.

So it is just a case of head down and trust that it will all come together in the end. It might seem like goggle gook at the mo but it will eventually fall into place. On monday i am doing a fitness testing day where I will be assessing back stability in several athletes and looking at their risk of potential injury. I find core stability an interesting subject especially the concept of Punjabi of the active, passive and neural systems. I assume that you have come across this concept in your course too.....What are your views on this idea?

Still smiling

Jo

Hey Jo,

Sorry for the delay - my disertation is not going to plan. seem to remeber reading Burgomaster 2003 study - did they redo it?

As I remeber the study showed a 100% increase in tested cycling time, but was only tested on 8 subjects and was interval wingate tests (have you done a wingate test? - very tough!!) with four min recoveries? No increase on VO2 max and only a slight increase in Wmax was noted. Not overly impressed as this is more than likely familiarisation to the test or possibley neural adaptaions. If I remember correctly metabolic tests did not improve either? (LTP, LT)? I have the paper somewhere I will reread it and PM you with my thoughts. what stats did you use to assess variance in your lab/study? and what partameters did you consider?

Sounds like you have got the physiology essay well covered though - best of luck there!!

I also like core stability and have looked at active, passive and neural control but have not come accross the term "Punjabi concept" - you got me there. Would you mind outlining the theory for me? I may need to do some reading lol.
I have limited knowledge of joint testing (will progress that with physio studies later), I like Kendal, Butlter or Shacklock when it comes to functional assessments, who do you use?

Have you done any work with EMG? I see you have covered electrotherapy, have you done any motion analysis? what are you using for kinematic analysis for your project?

Smiling as always
D

Hi Dan

Been feeling really rough all weekend but seemed to have turned a corner today. My dissertation only needs refining and it is ready to go!!!!!! Hope that this baby can cut it.

The Burgomaster study was in the JAP 2005 and the results are the same as what you have stated. I actually got to participate in our study so I had to do six wingates each session with a four min recovery. Thankfully, we were looking at whether a reduced load and frequency would have the same effects. In some subjects it did but in others not so as a group interaction it was found to not be significant. We did not control the variance in the lab!!!!!!!! In fact, several things occurred that were good from a learning point of view as you really need to make sure that the testers know what they are doing. I wasn't impressed to say the least. So we will not go there.

The paper by Punjabi (1992) The stabilization of the spine. Part 1. Function, dysfunction, adaptation and enhancement. Journal of Spinal Disorders, 5, 383-389.

In this paper he describes the spinal stabilising system consisting of three interrelating sub-systems. Namely, passive (spinal column), active (muscular), and control (neural). If you can't get this paper, a book that describes this concept is Back Stability by Christopher Norris.

We were shown in biomechanics how to use an EMG machine but that was it. One session only, however, I was a subject for one of my fellow students looking at teaching contraction of TA. The uni has just brought an all singing and dancing EMG that is amazingly easy to use. I haven't used it though, it has only been used on me. I know that you cant measure the TA directly, without inserting probes, and so she measured the other muscles in which muscle activity recorded, should in theory decrease, in the training group as they should not be recruiting the global muscles instead of the core ones.

By motion analysis, do you mean gait analysis? Or motion analysis for example, breaking down all the components of a movement? The kinematics that I am using are body segment angles at the highest point of the swing retraction phase and stride duration which is broken down into swing and stance. Because I am correlating it to the judges score, I am only measuring what they are likely to see therefore any movement occurring <0.1 seconds will not be perceived by the retina and so there is no point in including this. I am trying to identify performance indicators that contribute to an outcome so that an trainer, rider can work on the ones must likely to meaningfully contribute to enhancing a performance.

As the horses that I videoed were performing in an actual competition I could not stick on markers. This made it difficult and a laborious job sitting in the lab and manually digitizing it all. It took me two weeks of six hour days and I only analysed twenty five horses but they all performed twelve steps. I used the Quintic system which is an amazing tool. Have you ever used it?

So what is your dissertation on and are you now back on track?

Jo

Hey Jo,

Apologies for the delay - my dissertation is currently taking over my life!
For some reason my uni only gets hard copies of JAP which is a pain and so I haven't seen anymore than the abstract for the JAP study, the 2003 study was in medicine and science in sports and exercise.

I have seen some of Norris's stuff (my lecturer loves him along with Sahrman and Kendal) seems to be pretty impressive. It seems to fit in well with Hislop's pathokinesiological model as far as I can tell.

With motion analysis I meant any form of kinesiology/biomechanics to be honest, I am only just learning how to use the equipment we have at Uni so am interested in any studies/info on how anyone else studies movement.

We use the qualysis system, visual c3d or SiliconCoach depending on what type of analysis we are doing (2D or 3D) but to honest I have barely seen what half the uni's equipment can do.
I used EMG for my study (although i have to yet to see how good this will be lol) and 3D analysis which was a good insight but am looking forward to getting my teeth into things a bit deeper next year.

I am looking at whether muscle recruitment around the shoulder/shoulder girdle changes post recovery from injuries, I was hoping to analyse glenohumeral dislocations but only found subjects with AC issues. Still as an undergrad can't really expect things to go perfectly.
Seems to be going ok so far but have a fair bit left to write yet.

Did you figure out gycolysis? hope so and everything else is going well.
Am off to continue with my dissertation - remember smiling d

Hi Dan

Celebrations sort of my dissertation is finished and bound. No more can be done!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to submit it tomorrow and then I can forget all about it. Just found out that my tutor wants my raw data sheets as well. So another heap of photocopying. It all costs a fortune. So how is yours going?

I put in my physiology project today as well and so now I have one presentation to prepare for next week and then I have three exams to study for. I am remarkably unstressed which is a little worrying to say the least as isn't this year suppose to be the hardest. I suppose I have the comfort of knowing that unless something goes drastically wrong the worst I can do is get a 2:1. So one has to put it all into perspective.

You sound like you have picked a difficult project. Have you got many people in your study? How do you know whether the muscle recruitment dysfunction has occurred post injury and wasn't already present and therefore contributed to the injury? I assume that you are looking at people who are already injured or have been injured as it would be unethical to injure them in the hope of studying them!!!!! Although this would be a preferred way as then you could know that the dysfunction wasn't present in the first place. Such a pity to have ethics!!!!!!! Don't you think? I don't envy you your project.

We have a pretty good biomechanics set up at the uni but I don't know the half of it as we are not show it as there just isn't time. They do have a lot of post grads here in this dept and so I assume it is a pretty good one!!! We have quite a few force platforms and all of our lecturers are regularly publishing. Last summer they did the analysis for the international cricketers when there was the issue of whether the bowlers were actually throwing the ball. So then they did motion analysis and found that indeed one of the top pakistani bowlers was throwing the ball and so he was banned. Now he has addressed this and is going to Loughborough to be analysised again to see if he is able to play again.

The quintic system enables the digitizing of video footage so you can work out angle of release, the amount of joint flexion etc. you can track this to enable you to analysis the sportsperson's technique. Of course all is dependant on how good the camera is as fifty frames per second I found was not adequate to see all of a technique. I assume that as I am an undergrad, they were not willing to let me use the camera that is all singing and dancing!!!! Our head of department is a pretty fiercesome character who protects her equipment with a zealousness that would not be surpassed by the fainthearted!

Still smiling, with four weeks to go :-)

Jo

Hey Jo,

Dissertation, done and dusted, I have slept for 18 hours or something and am now celebrating - by working (don't think i really mastered the student celebration!!).

Which Uni are you at? I forget if you told me and we have quite a back log to trawl thro now (I'm quite impressed actually).

I was quite lucky with my subjects as they were all AC injuries which helped with my data analyses, I only managed to get 10 subject so couldn't do ground breaking research but got 4 injured so was enough to do a basic comparison (Anova, F-Test, t-Test). I used 8 3D cameras at 200Hz and 8 SeMG electrodes at 2000Hz to monitor muscular activity in arm abduction and eccentric return. The trouble is I would love to redo the test and improve it now I have completed one, but I have to select a different subject. I have to presume the deviances occured after injury, but Anova is quite good at concentrationg within groups as oppose to t-Tests which compare to expected difference according to chance, so hopefully muscular trends were respeonses to injury.

I am looking at VMO activation for my masters hopefully with a module in pain management which will be easier to start than my undergrad (I hope!!)
Greenwich is big on research too, even more so now a new lecturer has started who loves research.

Thats very unlucky about raw data!! They have no heart. How did the phys essay finish up? happy with glycolysis now? Good luck for your exams and presentation - expected 2.1 is pretty good.

I read the national average is 2:2 now, dunno if its true though???

I have to prsent my diertation on the third, control amnd disorders of movement (neurological), and exercie physiology exams on the 12 and 19th.

Found my smile again now,
Hope all is good with you.
D

Hi Dan

My dissertation went in last week and it was a pleasure to finally get it all finished and out of my hair. The phys lab report did not go as well as I would have liked so just got to hope that it cuts the muster. I don't think that I really grasped the concept as good as I usually do and so I am not that confident that it will be in the good grade mark. In this subject I normally manage to get A's but not sure on this one!!!! So I need to put even more effort into the exam which is in ten days time.

The presentation went reasonably well. I did it on chronic pain in the clinical environment as I find this an interesting topic. We tend to focus on mainly acute injuries and of course your tendinopathies but we don't do much on chronic pain and its management. One of the lecturers asked me if I thought that this topic should be included in the degree syllabus, which kind of took me by surprise. I too have not doing many comments at the moment as I have to try to channel my energies into my studies at the mo. I aim to get a bit more involved when this is all over.

Look forward to hearing your reply on the running economy.
Hope that you are keeping well

Jo :-)

Hey Jo,

Am at work today (another day another dollar an all that), I have yet to dig my notes out on exercise ecconomy (sorry will get on to that asap).

Sounds like your doing well with your work, i'll keep my fingers crossed for your exams (when are they by the way?).

I'll be glad when exams are over now, am finding it hard to lead a "normal lifstyle" at the minute - my training has practically stopped too which is irritating me, still not long left I guess.

Have you decided what your doing next year yet? I'm trying to start my application but this lecturers strike has left me with some grades being held back (am hoping it'll be resolved soon).

I am also working abroad soon so would be really handy if I could make all arrangments before I leave.

I have the presentation on my disertation weds (apparently a shirt and tie affair), and then two exams (12th+19th).

Hope things aren't too mad for you, take care.
Smile like your finished
D

Hi Dan

Sorry for the delay but I had exams these last two weeks and so was stuck with my nose in the books barely coming up for air!!!!!

Well it is all over. The end of the degree now I just have to wait for the results!!!!!! Last exam was an absolute nightmare but hey that is life. It was a practical and I completely spun. I so wanted to show all that I knew but it just wasn't my day!!!!!!!!! Hope that it doesn't influence my grade too much. Nothing can be done now and so no point dwelling on it. It is absolutely fab to have it all over. I have had the first normal weekend in four years and it feels good.

So how did your presentation go? And your exams?

Where are you working abroad?

Hope that you are still smiling :-)

Jo

Hey Jo,

My exams aren't finished yet. I just had control and disorders of movement last friday, CDM was hard as I have never studied neurology before, but I think I did ok. I had my presentation on my disertation (2:1) but have yet to hear a grade for my actual dissertation to date. I have advanced sports physiology this friday afterwhich I am done.

I leave for India (Bombay and Delhi) on either the 8th or th 9th of June where I will working in gyms personal training for approx six weeks - am really looking forward to a change of scene. It will also be nice to just practise for a while.

Have you decided what you are doing next year yet? I heard Leicester and Hadlow also do equine studies by the way?

I bet you'll have done better than you think - do you have any idea what grade you finalise on? I'm pretty sure a first is out of reach for me now, but sounds like you did really well this year!
Are you working for the summer? or making the most of your last break lol?

Hope all is good with you, smile and party now its over...
Dan

Hi Dan

Sounds like it is going good for you too. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you on Friday.

I have decided not to do a masters. I feel that I just need to get out in the big world and start to put it all the knowledge that I have gained into practice. I have applied for a job as a higher grade physio assistant in the musculoskeletal dept. at the local hospital. I am aiming to get some clinical experience under my belt. In addition, I hope to do a six months part time course in horse massage which I can combine with the physio job.

As for the grade that I will finalise on I am bordering on a high 2:1 possibly first class I don't really have a clue what grades that I have achieved this semester so it really is in the lap of the gods!!!!! Apart from the last exam all others have gone pretty well.

It should be great fun travelling to India. You must let me know how it is going? I can't imagine that it will be your first time teaching in a gym as your knowledge is pretty good and sounds like it is coming from experience also.

At the moment I am doing extra hours at my part time job in the hospital. This will pay the bills and give me some breathing space to go after the job that I want. I am off to Portugal at the end of June for a holiday and then I will start to hit the career market with a vengence. At the moment I am recharging the batteries.

As for celebrating, I did that with the youngsters on the course and found myself in a nightclub. It was an absolute awesome night that I wont forget in a hurry (and it took me a day or two to get over it). Are you planning on celebrating? What will you do when you return from India?

I hope that you are still smiling, nearly there now and let me tell you, it feels great!

Jo

Hey Jo,

I am now in India and am actually finding it hard to get on the net so am gonna be somewhat sporadic with messages, I have an interview later for a position as temp teacher in Gold's gym academy (fingers crossed). I finished with a 2.1 and have been accepted for the masters at greenwich so will be back online regularly from august.

Have you got your results? or a job? I hope so. Must dash now hope to get back online soon.

Got my smile back now - hopefully you too
Dan

Hi Dan

Well done you on your results and acceptance into Greenwich. I don't know my results yet, I think we get them sometime in July. Hope that you are enjoying your stay in India. Good luck on the job front. I haven't even started looking for a job yet as I am just recharging the batteries at the moment. I am off to Portugal in a few days time for a holiday and when I return will start to make a serious effort about what I plan to do in the future and start putting things into action. Until then, still chilling and carrying a big smile for achieving the degree, whatever the grade, and not having to study any more.

Great big cheesy grin :-)

JO