If I was having my gait analised I would personally go to a Podiatrist who specialises in biomechanical problems.

I would get my ankles and lower limbs checked out as a simple thing like not having enough ROM at the ankle joint can cause hip and back problems.

When I had back problems and I got back into training I used a lot of swings I was using a kettlebell but you could use a dumbbell, this will help retrain and strenghten the posterior chain.

Are you sure he said it was the abductors that you had the problem with?
and not adductors which if they are not functioning correctly can add to back problems.

As well as strenghtening the muscles you need to break down any scar and fibrous tissue you may have.

Hope this has been in some way usefull, please keep us informed of how you get on, it might be an idea to post the symtoms of the original back problem with the deads.

good luck John Murphy :wink:

Thanks John

Yes the muscles on the outside of the leg just in case I've got them mixed up.

The original problem was I twisted my pelvis deadlifting, I never felt right doing it, I think it might be down to flexability I'm not sure, it just felt wrong so once my back got better I vowed to never do them again. I'm 6' 3" and it just felt like the floor was too far away. I know people much taller than me who have no problems though.

I was about to start to learn how to do Olympic lifting but obviously this has put a stop to that

Paul

I would still suggest that you get the hip flexors checked out

deads would be good for the posterior chain, what other sport/training are you doing.

Cheers take it easy John :wink:

Hi Paul

An anterior pelvic tilt is USUALLY coupled with tight hip flexors, lumbar erectors, weak external hip rotators/abductors (glute max, med, minimus etc) and weak or poor coordination of the lower abdominal region.

There is usually a direct correlation between anterior pelvic tilt and anterior head carriage (forward head posture)too. Do you notice if you have forward head posture? Because correcting this will in turn, help you correct the anterior pelvic tilt.

The steps here, as im sure your physio has told you is to stretch out the muscles that show up to be short, tight and potentially facilitated muscles and then strengthen the muscles that on assessment show up to be long and weak.

Usually most people train to strengthen these muscles in isolation, which is fine to start with but then you need to integrate the muscles into functional movement patterns also.

Unfortunately it is not always as simple as, but it should give youa good start. Hope it all goes well.

James

James thanks for your post,
Yes what you're saying seems to fit in with what the physio is saying. Lower abdominal muscles, the ones one would tense to stop peeing rather than abbs?

When you say forward head posture, do you mean looking at the floor when I walk, in which case no, I usually look straight ahead. But, the physio got me to stand with my lower back flat against the wall with my feet and shoulder blades also touchiung the wall and I felt it difficult to not look up, it felt difficult to look straight ahead. Would that indicate anything?

Thanks John too, I am stretching and strengthening my hip flexors too

Cheers
Paul

in this case, by lower abdominals, i mean the lower fibres of the rectus abdominis, external and internal obliques that help to posteriorly rotate the pelvis. Although, the deeper inner unit muscles you mentioned may need to be addressed also.

Also, if your hip flexors are tight and you are stretching them, then you actually want to avoid strengthening them as you said in your last message, because this will be counter-productive.

re: forward head posture - if the most prominent part of your cheek bone lies 3cm or more anterior to your sternal notch (little indent at the top of your sternum) then it is likely you have forward head posture. If someone was to view you from the side and a straight line drawn up from the axis of the ankle joint and the mastoid process is anterior of the straight line, then it would appear you have forward head posture.

From what you described with regards to standing against the wall, it appears that you may have an increased thoracic curve, which mostly will be coupled with forward head posture. This is called an 'upper cross sydrome' (Vladimir Yanda - spelling?) and usually accompanies a lower cross syndrome, which is what you have described initially.

James

Ok understood, thanks James

Update / help needed

After spending a small fortune (£600) at the physios and then some more at a chiros (£200) and then another £400 and an Osteo, I'm still in pain.

I'm getting a bit desperate now. I managed to get a job but then lost it because of my back.

I now know the pain is coming from the right SI joint which Ostoes seem to be able to fix but not permanently. The pain down my right leg is gone but now my neck and spine between the shoulders hurts.

I've started at a new Chiro who said he thinks it's actually my left hip that’s twisted round causing the problem not my right but I'm not convinced he's right.

Physio 1 -4 - your posture (forward pelvic tilt) and a bulging disk is the problem
Chiro 1 - I have no idea but give me all your money
Osteo 1 - Right SI joint/twisted sacrum sunken arch on left foot
Osteo 2 - Right SI joint/twisted illium sunken arch on right foot
Chiro 2 - Left SI joint causing left leg to be shorter than right

Has anyone else had this problem who has some advice? Maybe you could recommend someone in the London / Surrey area who can fix it.

My right Si joint hurts, maybe because of a twisted right illium or sacrum or maybe left, no one seems to know.

When I get that put right I get a stiff neck. Then the middle of my back starts to hurt and then my pelvis twists round again and the cycle repeats itself

Any help appreciated

After reading all your aches and pains, all I can say is......poor baby :(

Hi,

I'm new to this board, but genuinely sympathise with you mate. I have been down this same road for the last few years, and spent an absolute fortune :shock:

I was a keen goalkeeper for many years, but had to give up the sport because of my continual lower back/SI joint problems.

Please let me know how you are getting on :?:

I'm going to put up a new post up about my problem, to hopefully get some new ideas.