overtraining good

Ive heard its a type of training, but its dangerous could put you out of training!
I train hard and beside that i really enjoy sports and training soo i wouldnt like to be put out of the game for weeks or how long..

You simply stand a chance of injuries of you overtrain. The body is a machine and needs time to repair itself. Ideal rest times should be between 24 hrs for normal exercises and up to 72 hrs for HIT.

thats for noobs mate, i also used to over train before..i thought my knees could tolerate anything....i wanted to increase my vert jump that i did soo many skipping ropes, and reached about 5000 skip ropes a day...that really gave me some knee problems...also doing improper use of plyos...:)...and btw if u want to gain size and strength u need proper progress and not overtraining in a session!!!maybe overloading:)

i dunno....
how would you define over training?

i would push myself to the limit, but not over the top, because injury is irreversible

Are you sure you are not confusing over-training with over-reaching. The latter is what makes your body adapt so that is able to cope next time with the load you previously placed upon it. Over-training is a state of exhaustion both physically and mentally when for example you just feel run down, lethargic, and demotivated. There can also be a negative impact on your immune system which you can get from over-training.

I tended to overtrain by rowing 12Km in a single scull every night for 8 weeks, only Friday was a rest day. Since then I put a lot more variation into the program so find that no longer do I sit down into the boat at the beginning of the outing and think "I just can't be bothered" or "I don't think I have the energy for this" but instead because of the shift in focus from one outing to the next find that I can train hard every outing without feeling psychologically and physically in the dumps.

wow

wouldnt overtraining in the gym accelerate muscle breakdown and even if caught up on rest still wear your body down in the long run it cant be good for you, how is overtraining good if your muscles are soo damn worn out all the running you do your bones take the shock and stress

controlled overtraining is a technique used in professional training. Similar to crash training.

You deliberately overtrain your body, which initiates an overcompensation.

However please notice the 'controlled' prefix!

This is dangerous if you dont know what you are doing, always consult a qualified sports scientist.

I have achieved good results with this type of training, also with a SLIGHT calorie restriction at the same time, followed by a rest period with a slight excess of calories, i have found very effective.

The body does not get bigger and stronger while training, it is during the rest between sessions that influence this. If you over train whether it is controlled or not is risking the chance of increased injury and under performance.

For short periods of time I know of people who have completed this type of training and did not benefit at all. Felt tired the whole time and complained of aches and pains. To over train knowingly for months is insane and can only lead to a decreased performance. Plus the body can not with stand that type of stress for long periods.

The immune function decreases making the body more supsecptible to infections and longer to recover. Endocrine system is disrupted too, making it hard to build towards goals of strength etc. Musculoskeletal system will be overused - musculotendon units weaken, joint pain etc. Rest and recovery are key to develop any training programme.

but alex dont you agree that this technique can be used , its vertually identical to crash training, where you build up the intensity to a higher level than normal, and therefore the the healing process correspondingly over compensates.

I have found this has worked very well with my own training.

I dont agree that all overtraining is bad, full stop. If it is integrated into your normal training i find it gives my recovery system a kick and i OVER compensate for the training i have done, as i have reached a far higher intensity than ever before.

I agree with you completely that overtraining is negative. Leading to a whole number of problems, but we shouldn't count it out completely, and it can be an extra tool to add to our training.